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July 23rd, 2014, 12:00 pm

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July 23rd, 2014, 6:46 am

Sure, it may be useful, but if it's exactly the same as Crash Bomb, the wow factor is kind of... gone.

Well, at least it explodes instantly.


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July 23rd, 2014, 8:02 am

The funny part is how their sound is actually "KHG-KHG-KHG-KHG-KHG" and not "Boom".

User's Comments:

Reply Josephk, July 23rd, 2014, 12:25 pm

Just like in Cave Story when you combine two weapons.

Reply Luigi_96, July 23rd, 2014, 12:49 pm

Originality is not Capcom's strong point.

Reply Shadow_Da_Hedgie, July 23rd, 2014, 1:21 pm

Yes, if it is exactly the same as Crash Bomb, the wow factor is gone.

And yeah, originality isn't always Capcom's strong point. No spoilers though, so I can't go into further detail about what I'm thinking of.

Nice new avatar by the way, Djoing.

Reply NikNW, July 23rd, 2014, 2:00 pm

It's math, Mega Man style.

Reply TheAdvisor (Guest), July 24th, 2014, 3:26 am

Lulwut, new avatar already? ............What's your Miiverse username?

Reply arcict (Guest), July 24th, 2014, 9:22 am

It doesn't really make the same sound. In MM2 the Crash bomb blew up multiple times when it detonated, that was one of the strengths it had against flashman (IIRC, the boss it was supposed to be used against). You could plant the bomb where flashman WOULD be, and if you timed it right, he'd use his flash at or close enough to that spot to get hit, each detonation would hit him, piercing his momentary invulnerability so he'd take MASSIVE DAMAGE from the total. By the time MM4 rolled around the explosion had changed to something faster and took up less time to perform. It essentially boils down to what almost looks like a circle of explosions, different sprites at different stages of an explosion, each sprite changing to the next stage. It happens so fast it is difficult to see without the brain just putting the whole thing together as "boom" and leaving it at that.

Not entirely original of course, whenever I play a megaman hack or the like (like Megapony) I always look for what I call "the crashman" weapon, that one weapon that can hurt things the others can't, I also keep a lookout for weapons that do useful but not necessarily combative things, like that balloon you guys picked up.

Oh, and there is one thing the drill can do that the crash bomb couldn't, I'd say but that'd probably count as spoilers.

Reply Shadow_Da_Hedgie, July 24th, 2014, 1:53 pm

@arcict: Actually, if any robot was supposed to have the Crash Bomb used against them, it was probably Quick Man. MM2 didn't have a regular weakness chain due to the Metal Blade being broken as heck. With Flash Man it's easy enough to just spam the Metal Blades until he dies. With Quick Man, unless you're playing on Easy and didn't use the Time Stopper to get through the death lasers, you wouldn't have a weapon to kill him easily. In Normal, it'd only take half of his health, and most of the other weapons either don't affect him or are unwieldy against him. Whereas Flash Man... he has a bunch of weapons that do more than one damage to him. And he is easy to hit with all of them due to his slow, predictable movements. Yes, the Crash Bombs can do a lot of damage to him if they are aimed properly, but when you can just spam Metal Blades... why bother? The Crash Bombs do more damage to Quick than they do to Flash anyway.

Reply Arcict (Guest), July 24th, 2014, 10:02 pm

Because my brain likes to have things a certain way, as such even if Metal Blade is broken, I still will usually only use it for one boss at a time, plus I usually take out Flashman first anyway so unless I'm doing the bosses deliberately in NO ORDER WHATSOEVER just to make them harder I usually won't get the chance to use the crash bomb other than a the blue... er, wall, thing... that one room-boss!

Also, I play on the hardest difficulty and NEVER need to use flashman's power to stop those energy beams. I've played it so often I know exactly when each one is going to happen and where. But then, that's why I also play hacked games, because they tend to mix it up a little.

Also, I beat IWBTG, no hacks, no cheats, no save-state like with roms I play.

Reply Shadow_Da_Hedgie, July 25th, 2014, 2:38 pm

@Arcict: That last bit just makes you sound like a show-off. What does IWBTG have to do with what we were saying?

Reply HOOPLA!, July 25th, 2014, 4:08 pm

How is IWBTG related to this comic?

Reply Shadow_Da_Hedgie, July 25th, 2014, 5:02 pm

@HOOPLA!: it isn't. As I said, I think he's just trying to show off.

Reply HOOPLA!, July 25th, 2014, 5:55 pm

@Shadow_Da_Hedgie: ok then.

Reply Arcict (Guest), July 26th, 2014, 2:07 pm

It's relevant because I figured that people'd say "oh no, how scary, you can beat games USING A STINKING EMULATOR WHILE CHEATING USING THE SAVE-STATES!" and discredit what I'd been saying. Also because essentially, unless you play the games so much that they become super-ingrained into your brain (not that I'm saying I've played them THAT much) a good deal of the gameplay is similar, you die until you learn and then you can progress.

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